![]() ![]() Jesse: On today’s show, veteran design consultant Erika Hall of Mule Design Studio, author of the books Conversational Design, and Just Enough Research joins us to talk about whether designers are truly ready for that coveted seat at the table, how to build those crucial cross-functional relationships, and the relationship between design and capitalism. ![]() ![]() Peter: …navigating the opportunities and challenges of design and design leadership. They’re outside your purview and designers are chasing after it, coloring in the boxes. It’s not actually design because you’re not making meaningful choices. TranscriptĮrika: Most of what operates under the label of “design” right now is styling business models. In which Peter and Jesse talk to strategic design and research consultant Erika Hall of Mule Design, learn about how “the business model is the new grid,” why most design is simply just styling, and the importance of asking questions. ![]()
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